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Bits from Hot Chips: Robots, Cisco, Oracle

八月 22, 2011
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Bits from Hot Chips: Robots, Cisco, Oracle

Rick Merritt  8/19/2011 7:02 PM EDT

http://www.eetimes.com/electronics-news/4219157/Bits-from-Hot-Chips–Robots–Cisco–Oracle

Researchers demonstrated personal robots, Oracle discussed its latest server processor and Cisco described an Ethernet chip on the last day of Hot Chips.

PALO ALTO, Calif. – Researchers demonstrated personal robots, Oracle debuted its latest server processor and Cisco described an Ethernet chip on the last day of Hot Chips here.

"As an industry we’ve basically saturated what you can do with a robot behind a cage for industrial uses—the next 50 years will be about personal robots," said Steve Cousins, chief executive of Willow Garage, in a keynote describing and demonstrating the company’s latest robot.

A video of his demo is online on YouTube here or at the EE Times video site here.

The robot uses two eight-core Intel Westmere processors in its base and a Microsoft Kinect sensor on its head as a navigation aid. The components are less than ideal.

The processors require a loud fan for cooling and are easily swamped by still nascent programs for object recognition and robot decision making. The Kinect is useful but "we need better sensors—it’s hard to get a camera that’s even close to what the human eye sees," said Cousins.

Besides the Kinect, the robot uses nine video cameras and two laser scanners taken from garage door controllers. "All we get are hand-me-downs," said Cousins.

He called for low power, high performance processors that support large shared memory operations. He also called for specialized processors that could work in tandem with a variety of touch and camera sensors.

For its part, Oracle gave the first look inside the T4, a next generation Niagara family server processor using a new out-of-order, dual-issue core. Engineers got a stunning five-fold integer and seven-fold floating point boost on the T4, despite ratcheting back from 16-cores on the previous T3 versus just eight cores on the new chip.

Oracle’s T4 uses a new dual-issue core that accepts eight threads.

Inside Oracle’s T4, Cisco’s Sereno

Oracle is continuing its aggressive support of eight threads per core, started under the former Sun Microsystems. "We think we still lead in threads per chip, and we will continue to do so," said Robert Golla, a senior hardware architect at Oracle.

The new S3 core will be the basis for future Oracle processors. It sports extensive new branch prediction and pre-fetch features, a new dynamic threading approach for mixed workloads and a 16-stage integer pipeline running at more than 3 GHz. The core adds a handful of new instructions to boost performance on cryptography and some Oracle-specific apps.

Except for a new crossbar and cache design, the 40nm TSMC chip uses similar blocks as the prior T3 chip. The T4 has been running in lab all year but has not yet been released in systems.

Finally, Cisco Systems described Sereno, a 40 Gbit/s Ethernet ASIC it will use in its next-generation servers. The chip includes a mix of virtualization and networking features not found in merchant chips, Cisco engineers said.

Popular systems software such as Microsoft Windows Server and VMWare’s ESX do not support the so-called SR-IOV virtualization defined by the PCI Special Interest Group.

So Cisco designers created their own I/O virtualization technology for its chip, letting it act as up to 256 Ethernet virtual interfaces to the system, each with its own VLANs, multicast, filters and other capabilities.

The chip includes a MIPS R24K processor to handle network management jobs, including tracking up to 16 million network flows, offloading work from the server host CPU. The chip also groups its interrupts so as not to generate "interrupt storms" that swamp the host processor.

The 65nm chip was made at Texas Instruments, is running in the lab and going through system-level testing to ship with future Cisco servers.

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Cisco launches compact Catalyst switches; Tackles wiring

二月 5, 2011
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Cisco launches compact Catalyst switches; Tackles wiring

By Larry Dignan | January 10, 2011, 2:01am PST

Cisco on Monday launched a compact set of Catalyst switches designed to cut out wireless clutter in remote offices, kiosks, point-of-sale areas and other tight spots.

The Catalyst 3560-C and 2960-C Compact Series Switches are being introduced as the National Retail Federation annual conference kicks off in New York. Cisco said that the switches apply to retail, but can work for a bevy of other verticals.

Rob Soderbery, general manager of Cisco’s Ethernet switching technology group, said Cisco sees $1 billion in potential revenue in the remote office and small- mid-sized business market. That business today is about $100 million for Cisco.


Among the key details:

  • The Compact Series means you can run one Ethernet cord and power phones, video cameras, point-of-sale terminals and other devices. Wiring is a substantial cost for many businesses.
  • Cisco said the switches feature Power over Ethernet (PoE) technology. That eliminates the need for additional power outlets. Once you connect a device to the switch via an Ethernet cable you have power.
  • The small footprint works for classrooms and other areas with limited space. Deployment is simplified since wiring and power requirements are lower.
  • The Compact Series are PCI compliant to meet security regulations. Packets at the switch and end device are encrypted at the source.
  • Soderbery said Cisco’s latest switches are likely to compete with commodity white-box switches that are low cost upfront, but have high costs over time. The Compact Series will be available in March and range from $745 to $1,995 per box.

As for the competition, Soderbery noted that Cisco is going to compete with smaller vendors ranging from Extreme to the former Nortel. Hewlett-Packard has also been “trying to insert itself into the upgrade cycle,” said Soderbery. “Our strategy is to offer a wide range of price points and offer end-to-end architecture.”

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/cisco-launches-compact-catalyst-switches-tackles-wiring/43399?tag=nl.e539

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MIPS vs. Power: Truth about comms market share

十月 4, 2010
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MIPS vs. Power:

Truth about comms market share

Junko Yoshida

8/11/2010 6:33 AM EDT

NEW YORK — The networking equipment market is getting red hot again, after a dearth of infrastructure spending by operators over the past two years. As the market heats up, so does the argument over who is actually winning share in the rapidly changing communications segment. In networking market, it’s share and share different.
Lisa Su, Freescale Semiconductor’s senior vice president and general manager, networking and multimedia, recently told EE Times, “We have finally found a driver” for the networking equipment market. “As more people use smart phones and iPads, the networking infrastructure is expected to behave completely differently.”
Herein lies opportunity.  Growth is now driven by more wireless data and IP video traffic.
As the network infrastructure transitions to LTE, although it may not reach high volume until 2012, customers have already made “all of the decisions on the architecture,” according to Freescale’s Su.

Calling the communications segment “our home,” Su sees a chance for Freescale to win big in the upcoming infrastructure revamp and recent investment catch-up. Today, Freescale is involved in more than 1,000 design engagements, she said.  The good news, she observed, is that “the incredible demand for more technology in networking equipment today is not just driven by Cisco or by a single geography, but by many customers in all regions.”

Freescale, however, isn’t alone benefiting from the renaissance of the communication market. So is MIPS. Sandeep Vij, CEO of MIPS Technologies, recently claimed during the company’s earnings call, that MIPS processors have now overtaken Freescale’s PowerPC in market share in the networking space.

That blanket statement, however, has caused quite a stir (and grievance) among competitors and industry analysts.

Here are some of the talking points used for the debate:

-Was MIPS speaking of its market share in terms of units or value?

-What’s included or not included in their definition of “networking space”?

-Are there any market or technology trends that support the evidence of one processor core architecture winning over others? If so, what are those trends then?

-Or is the processor core debate even pertinent when what goes into a base station, for example, includes not just a processor core but DSPs, FPGAs and ASICs?

The argument ranges even further, though, questioning not just whose is it, but also if it’s kosher for a company to publicly share custom research results.

Of course, we all know that every company is guilty of playing number games by slicing and dicing the data to suit their needs. We’ve all been there, done that.

But it is our responsibility to drill down into data to figure out what it all means.  

First, MIPS’ Vij was talking about its growing market share for MIPS in terms of units, not in value. Of course, MIPS’ definition of the communication market includes not just Ethernet switches, enterprise routers and cellular infrastructure, but also WiFi, broadband access points and customer premise equipment where MIPS is traditionally strong.
MIPS also conveniently excludes cellular phones (where ARM dominates) from its numbers, although IDC’s standard market research taxonomy includes them, showing 79 percent of the share in the total of $59 billion wireless communication market projected in 2010.

As Joseph Byrne, a senior analyst at The Linley Group, pointed out, it’s never easy to do an apples-to-apples comparison.
According to Byrne, PowerPC is mainly used in standalone processors whereas MIPS is mainly in ASSPs. “For example, most Wi-Fi access points feature a MIPS core, which is why the MIPS wireless number is so high,” he said.

“On the wired side, most broadband chips include a MIPS core.

PowerPC is used mainly in enterprise and telco communications infrastructure, which is far smaller in terms of volume than consumer gear.”

So, it’s possible to draw a conclusion completely opposite the picture MIPS’ CEO painted, using market share percentage in revenue (not in units) for standalone processors for communications (which is probably more pertinent to the processor architecture debate).

Untruthful?

According to Linley Group’s June 2010 “Communications Semiconductor Market Share” report which addresses a 2009 breakout in revenue among standalone processors, Freescale ranked number one with a 45 percent share using PowerPC.

Number two is Intel at 25 percent using x86.

AMCC comes in the third with a seven percent share using PowerPC.

Cavium, based on MIPS, is ranked fourth at six percent.

Netlogic, also using MIPS, is the fifth in the list at a four percent share.

Does this prove that MIPS CEO was untruthful in his statement about MIPS vs. Power cores?

The answer is, probably, no.

There is growing momentum behind MIPS in the enterprise market, primarily fueled by companies such as Cavium Networks (where Vij used to work) and Netlogic Microsystems, both offering MIPS-based ASSPs.

As Shane Rau, research director, computing, networking, and storage semiconductors at IDC noted, the macro trends in the wired section of the communication market are favoring ASSPs and accelerating the adoption of multi-core processors.
But by no means does any of this suggest that Freescale is losing its base.

There’s a lot more to the communications market than processors cores. As Freescale’s Su noted, “I am not competing in a core alone.”

Freescale is leveraging the company’s wealth of technologies: processors based in Power architecture optimized for communications market; StarCore-based multi-core DSPs; and additional investments in software infrastructure.

While the processor cores “are important,” Su emphasized that Freescale’s focus is on system solutions. 

By developing special IP capabilities — such as security acceleration and packet processing — in accelerators, for example, “we can offer more performance for each silicon area,” said Su.

Beyond all the arguments and debates about market share numbers in the communications market, what’s clear is that the network processor market is getting even more competitive than ever before.
The days of analysts treating Freescale as a lame duck are long gone.

Jennifer Baxter, research analyst at PiperJaffray, this week wrote in her research note: “We believe that both Intel and Freescale are making renewed pushes into network processors. Freescale has recently refreshed its product line and has jumped from 90nm to 45nm. We believe Freescale’s market share has stabilized and will likely start to grow next year.”
Meanwhile, most industry analysts produced little evidence for technical or market trends supporting a one-processor core architecture over others.

The Linley Group’s Byrne doesn’t believe that there were any technical considerations.
“I think there were a few practical issues why Cavium and Netlogic went with MIPS,” he said. “First, there was an era where MIPS was the preferred architecture at Cisco. Second, although widely used in networking/telecom, PowerPC wasn’t readily licensed when these companies began developing processors.”
Asked about the wireless base station market, for example, Flint Pulskamp, research director of IDC’s wireless semiconductors research, noted that 50 percent of that market is held by X86; 25 percent by Power and 25 percent by MIPS. Are there any changes in the offing? As far as processor cores are concerned, “they are holding their own,” with not enough changes to say one is gaining momentum over others.

Pulskamp explained, bigger market changes in this space include the transition from ASIC to ASSP solutions; single core to multi-cores; a growing number of manufacturers – beyond the usual suspects like Lucent, Nortel, Alcatel and Ericsson – including Huawei, ZTE and others affecting market dynamics; and the trend toward a standard interface.
And then, there is a looming Cisco factor.

Cisco just reported revenue and provided guidance slightly below consensus.

Gary Mobley, senior analyst at Benchmark, today issued a note saying that “accordingly, semiconductor stocks will likely sell off for a third day.”

He wrote: “Based on Cisco’s business trends, there is no evidence that companies such as Cavium Networks or Netlogic Micro will miss the second half of the calendar year 2010 consensus expectations.

However, both chip companies will likely enter a mode of simply hitting consensus versus the beat-and-raise results posted over the past year.”

This may come back to boost Freescale’s market share. As Freescale’s Su noted in the interview, “I am not saying that Cisco isn’t important.

But we serve not just Cisco but a very large number of customers.”

http://www.eetimes.com/electronics-news/4206111/MIPS-vs–Power–Truth-about-comms-market-share

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